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Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Etrade Bankruptcy Update - Buy Etrade Stock

On Monday, I wondered if an Etrade bankruptcy was possible. On Tuesday, I bought some shares. Why? The analyst report that caused ETFC to lose more than half its value on Monday cited a 15% chance of Etrade filing for bankruptcy. Doesn't that strike you as an odd figure to publish? If the weather report called for a 15% chance of rain, would you fetch an umbrella? Today, the Etrade CEO responded on CNBC, calling the bankruptcy talk irresponsible. I'm debating whether I should hold Etrade stock (ETFC) as an investment or sell in a few days as a trade.

Why am I blogging about this on a blog devoted to search engine marketing? Well, my original post about the Etrade bankruptcy issue mentioned a PPC advertising strategy. Today, I'm writing because a client, Analytical Investing, has some information that might be helpful for Etrade stock investors. This is an unusual situation causing quite a bit of angst in the investment community. If you read this blog for search marketing insights, you can stop reading this post now. I'll get back to SEO/M ideas in my next post. If you're interested in the stock market, however, keep reading. I have permission from my client to post this data, from a Company Query for Etrade:

sample company query - etrade stock

Two items jump out at me in this analysis. First, the intrinsic value of Etrade stock is calculated as $14.03, more than double where the stock closed today. Second, the safety rating of 18 (on a scale of 100) is very low. On the one hand, then, the stock seems very cheap at these levels. On the other hand, it seems like a risky buy. With the uncertainty in the market and with this stock, in particular, that seems like a pretty good assessment. Did I mention that a subscription to the Analytical Investing service is only $25 for a 3 month trial? ;-)

Anyway, for those wondering about the value of Etrade stock, I hope the above screenshot was helpful. It's always nice to have some objective analysis when there's so much emotion and hype involved. Here's an explanation of the various stock ratings shown in the above screenshot:
For each company, we provide an overall rating, as well as ratings in each of four categories: value, growth, timing, and safety. The overall rating is derived from the other four, and is intended to be a indicator of share price appreciation potential. The overall rating is what would normally be used to make buy & sell decisions, with the other ratings providing more detail about the strengths & weaknesses of each company. The value rating is an assessment of a company's current financial fundamentals, the growth rating is an assessment of a company's growth potential, the safety rating is an indicator of how well a company is protected against a sudden drop in share price, and the timing rating indicates whether or not it is a favorable time to purchase the stock.
Well, I rather enjoyed talking about a client. I might have to do this sort of thing more often, particularly since most of my clients don't have blogs. If you're an investor, do check out Analytical Investing. And, if you've been following this Etrade saga, let me know if you think Etrade stock is a long term buy or a short term sell.

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6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd be careful with ETFC. I was not impressed with the reply when Maria B. asked about the changes in the extent of their write-downs and Caplan's reply is "we don't know" what these securities (mortgage-backed) are really worth.

Hell, he's the CEO and even he doesn't know how to value what the company owns? I read that as, "We can't tell you just how bad it is, but it's so bad, we don't WANT to know!"

The risk with ETFC is that the money-making portion of the business (the brokerage services) is at risk of its customers picking up and moving to a competitor -- the "run on the bank" situation.

If the losses in their mortgage-backed securities triggers enough "fear" and a significant (it might be just a small percentage) of their customers move their accounts, Etrade could be at risk of collapse.

If I were to buy any ETFC, I'd treat it strictly as a short-term trade. If you have ways to monitor/estimate whether or not customers are leaving, and you determined that overwhelmingly their customers were staying, it could probably be an excellent long-term investment, but I have no way of knowing if customers are staying -- and I won't rely on what the company tells us unless it is raw, detailed numbers disclosed in an SEC filing.

I know that if I had an Etrade account, I wouldn't be keeping it when I can get the same approximate service from competitors without the mortgage-backed-baggage risks.

You're keeping your account even if there is a "15%" risk of the company going into bankruptcy? Why not just move the account to a firm where there is virtually 0% risk of bankruptcy?

Thu Nov 15, 03:09:00 AM EST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch the insider trading too; if we see significant insider buying this week (Form 4s will be filed within 5 days); it will be a sign that insiders think the risk of bankruptcy is non-existent.

If there is no buying now, after the stock has hit historic lows, it shows there is real uncertainty about ETFC future by those "in the trenches."

Thu Nov 15, 12:31:00 PM EST  
Anonymous Tai said...

I'm not sure about the stock, but you might enjoy this video with the monkey from those Super Bowl ads - http://youtube.com/watch?v=6uSL1rilsWg

Mon Nov 19, 12:01:00 AM EST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is only two ways ETFC will end up
#1. If there is no buyer willing to aquire Etrade after 24th of Jan, 2008 for whatever amount, than

#2. Etrade will not be able to withstand losses an probably will colapse on its own betwen now and next 12-18 months,Unless they have something left in their bag of tricks

Most parties interested buying Etrade is affraid to invest, not before 24th at least. Current stock price (as of 01/18/2008) is $2.84 and it's been fluctuating betwen $2.80-$3.34 within last week and a half, many people made few buck's already and left, some is stock @ $3.50+ waiting for this magic call.
I'd like:
Company like Google completly take over Etrade an start growing roots for retail, Etrade has much needed base, so you don't have to spend time building it, its ready and its a matter of switching the name (kind of like Marshal Field to Macys but the other way)thats all. You take personel, locations, trading platform, Google's capital and strengh and here it is Google Credit cards, Bank, Mortgages, ect...

I don't belive TD Ameritrade nor Schwab will take a plunge and buy ETFC. That would be a risky move, especially in this market conditions

ETFC in my opinion is a 50/50 shot, you'll either loose what you put in or make 200-300% profit within 12-18 months.

I do own ETFC, will sell at $3.10-$3.15 before 24th, if not no matter what circumstances are, i'm going to keep it long even if ETFC will drop to $1.50, however i'm convinced that if $1.50 range will remain for a couple of weeks, Etrade most likely become a bankrupt before 2nd Q earnings

Final word:
I think ETFC is worth of its risk, $3 bucks now and possible good gains after 24th
or
you spent $3, stocks will drop to $1.5 than you sell it, loose half and move on with your life.
Maybe thats not greatest approach but this is how i'm.
NO RISK = NO MONEY

Wish you all luck, Jacob

Sat Jan 19, 04:23:00 AM EST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After watching for two years I went with a small buy at 1.50 and now it's 2.10. I always have a few risky little buys for companies I feel have a good brand. Like odessy marine OMEX. Investing is so serious. Gotta have some fun

Sun Sep 20, 03:41:00 AM EDT  
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Fri Oct 30, 04:08:00 AM EDT  

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